#0518* - Crowther and Labour & Nigel's "plan" - A THEORY or FACT?
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Crowther and Labour & Nigel's "plan" - A THEORY or FACT?
I MAKE NO CLAIM OF VERACITY!
BUT this does tie in with many FACTS known to me and also rumour I have heard over some time!
I MAKE NO CLAIM OF VERACITY!
BUT this does tie in with many FACTS known to me and also rumour I have heard over some time!
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Hi,
this is an interesting hypothesis which is being put about by a UKIP member and I am unsurprised that much of it ties in with details I have published on my blogs. also much of the balance ties in with information that has come to hand but which I have NOT published it as I could not confirm it from a second separate proven source.
It is all too easy as a blogger determined to publish the facts to be set up by those trying to hide the truth or dishonestly seeking to legally entrap you.
My blogs are based upon verrifiable and proven facts and I have NEVER wittingly misled anyone and NEVER published anything consequential which I have EVER had to retract or correct.
This article below is a third party comment passed on with good intent to TRY to Clean-Up UKIP to make it at least in some measure fit for purpose - which, whatever percentage of the information published below is true, it clearly is not!
Crowther and Labour & Nigel's "plan"
This nugget fell into my lap and I just can't resist the need to share it even though it's probably all going to be dismissed as twaddle and paranoia.
I've only been a member of UKIP since 2009, but a friend I was at University with has been for ages, and s/he works for the party on the European level in a role I'm not going to say any more about.
Having not seen them up here for over a year we agreed to have a beer, during which time I tried my darndest to find out what on earth was going on with the party because to me it appears to be all an utter shambles at the moment.
Looking to their left and right to check we were not being overheard (seriously), my friend leaned in to tell me some things that still has my ears ringging. An MEP, probably of only two MEPs who are actually "in the know" got p*ssed some days ago and let slip what's actually going on apparently.
As I have said all along - UKIP is no longer fit for purpose and the leadership and parasites MUST be a part of the Clean-Up if it is ever to be of any use as our lifeboat ever again.Andreasen is spot on. The party is in essence bankrupt. But it can dismiss her allegations as phoney, and it continues to function through regular injections of cash. Virtually brown envelopes full are handed over. But the source pumping this money in, or rather receiving it, is actually Stephen Crowther the Chief Exec.The bitterness was palpable. It's felt it seems that a UKIP without Farage is a terminally hollowed out entity destined for complete collapse. Nigel has centralised so much that his removal as leader would spell the end for the party. An enormous boost to the Conservatives, which have already suceeded in neutralising their Eurosceptic element.
The origin of the funds is most probably the Labour Party, or rather monied Union types. Crowther was a Labour man most of his life (a card-carrying member of CND no less) and only recently had a "miraculous conversion" to the UKIP cause.
It's Labour money that is in essence keeping UKIP on life support while Farage and Co. try desperately and hoplessly to pry dosh out of Wheeler and the City. Quite ironic really.
The faithful would then they believe return to the flock, with only a few left over, to join the remnant nutcases of the also bankrupt BNP, in the English Democrats. And that is a scenario that Miliband's lot can't allow to happen because as the economic numbers improve, splitting the Tory vote is one of the few ways they have of preventing a majority at the next election.
Needless to say as someone who travelled to London to be on the Rally Against Debt this talk of union cash horrified me, though I don't know whether this remark was in earshot or is third or fourth hand, but the reasons to be miserable didn't stop there:
Actually in all of this Farage is largely indifferent. He doesn't care either way. If you want to know what the top of UKIP looks like it's mostely Crowther running about keeping the thing afloat.At this point I was completely silent with my face deep in my pint (think you can guess what I drink) not wanting to say or do anything that would make my friend stop talking. It was like being in a car crash where everything slows down.
Only a tiny handful of people really know what's going on or have any say. The membership are viewed with contempt and are largely resented by the leadership. The reason is because the party has basically become about keeping the MEP seats alive as potential cash cows, and people can only be expected to keep voting for UKIP and keeping those MEP seats if UKIP can actually demonstrate some marginal growth. The leadership actually blames the membership for the party's bad performance at the locals because of what it means for the future.
Nobody though is seriously interested in really growing the party. Let alone making it successful. It's just about maintenance. They all just want to keep their jobs and use the membership to make that happen. Farage though couldn't care less because of Wheeler. Wheeler has been burned so is only handing over money very slowly. But he's said in so many words that without Farage making his speeches in the parliament, which is the only thing UKIP is good for, there is no point in him sticking around. No Farage means no Wheeler. Which is why Nigel is largely very relaxed. He also has his own exit strategy.
Obviously this is only all the things I can remeber about a chat that lasted about half an hour, but it seemed like hours. The mood became blacker and blacker as the evening wore on and I ended up feeling like a lame horse, with my pal as a vet just looking at me with pity, wondering about the best way to put me out of my misery.
Nigel has a simple plan, and that is that he is already warming up his replacement just in case his position becomes completely untenable. Nuttal. So over the coming months Farage will concentrate on seriously weaking any and all serious potential opponents to his prefered succesor, just in case. And of course he knows that the membership are just fool enough to vote for whoever he actually nominates.I don't think I have to say that by this stage this all started to sound like Junius-type conspiracy theorising so I put it down to too much booze, and the influence of our favourite UKIP attack blogger. And I said as much. But s/he was insistent:
Paul isn't exactly the smartest MEP, in a cotterie of not particulalry gifted MEPs Nigel has been careful to surround himself with. So nobody is under any illusions that even under his preferred new leader, Nuttal, Nigel would continue to pull the strings. That's the Plan B that will keep Nigel in charge, and in Strasbourg, no matter what happens.
(a) Junius is totally full of sh*te. All this b*llocks about Farage and Fuller is fantasy. The only person Nigel is ever likely to remain loyal to is Kirsten. It is true though that Fuller is madly in love with him, which is probably why she's such a tart to try and get his attention. But he's not in the least bit interested and never has been.
And (b) If you doubt any of what I've said just keep your eyes peeled. And see what happens.I think what's going to happen is me not renewing my membership.
Sadly I believe it is unlikely that UKIP will survive in any form other than that which it has been used and abused to date - A Milch Cow for the enrichment of a corrupt few at the expense of the gullible and very genuine members, supporters and voters who have voted for UKIP to Leave-The-EU - Only the utterly dellusional and politically idiotic have ever thought of UKIP as any kind of Political Party - Heaven only knows even UKIP claims to want less politicians NOT MORE PARASITES!
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Greg_L-W.
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