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Tuesday, 10 April 2012

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    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice
    CORRECTION the post has been dishonestly removed to comply with EU internet rules seemingly designed to suppress the truth and it would seem based upon a complaint based not on law but on abuse.

    No error or libel has been identified in EITHER of the postings arbitrarily removed and every statement in the postings is verifiable as FACT.
    . Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?
    If this is the case as this odious UKIP stooge seems to think it is clearly an abuse of his elected office - just as his recent abuse of his position to waste Police time to seemingly try to suppress facts and the truth about his apparent incitement to racial hatred based upon his personal superstitions and beliefs acting in his own interests counter the superstitions of his own constituents facts he does not wish to be brought to the attention of his electorate.

    However5 just as the fanciful and childish script of the low grade soap opera Fonzie bases his identity on I believe this may well be no more than fiction!

    There is at least a possibility that the unpleasant criminal extremist Gregory Lauder-Frost has misrepresented the clearly verifiable truth in the postings to suppress comment about his odious extremism and criminal record which includes a prison sentence for fraud running to six figures for monies stolen from his employers.

    I believe Mr Lance-Watkins has cut and pasted the offending post on his site
    Since I wrote one of the posts removed perhaps this idiot Fonzie would care to show where the statements of verifiable fact in any way offended.
    - as it's also run by Google, one might think that will be removed soon.
    Unlikely as it contains no libel but let us face it with the exposure of Google's blogspot to being .co.UK subject to the corrupt rules of The EU any suppression of truth is likely!
    And not before time too, these people should not be allowed to publish libels freely
    Perhaps having made this libelous accusation the dishonest coward Arthur Fonzerelli might have the integrity to act ethically and put his or her actual identity to their libel as they have failed with absolute 100% track record of failure to EVER identify any libel EVER published by me and presumably they can not identify a libel by Junius or they would have published the details and asked Junius for its correction and apology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice. Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?
    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.
    Mjolnir is correct that it is impossible to libel by telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.
    If you visit th article you linked to, you will see that the offending text has been removed and replaced by...

    In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed this post. If you wish, you can read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.
    Why do think that has happened Mjolnir?
    As I have shown above the posting was accurate, honest and verifiable on the internet and in public record and has seemingly been unreasonably removed most likely on a dishonest complaint to suppress facts and the truth and opinion that racism and extremism on the part of those written about should be kept from the public! Supported it seems by anonymous low lifes from UKIP!

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    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten
    I appreciate ethics and honesty are rarely in the lexicon of this anonymous coward thus presumably too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty - as ever - Oh so very UKIP!
    . GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn't so far offered any facts in support of that
    Read my posts on this issue and you will readily establish this to be a dishonest misrepresentation of my comments and the facts led - perhaps the idiotic 'Independent UKIP' has overlooked in his rush to defame that it was in fact his co creep Arthur Fonzerrelli who stated the likelihood of the complainant being Gerard Batten, in this thread!
    . The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.
    As I pointed out on my blog!

    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten. GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn't so far offered any facts in support of that. The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.
    Following on from this, Google have removed another post from the Junius site - it appeared to have been uploaded on Thursday - again, the same text appears to explain the articles removal. I believe it was regarding Mr Batten again.

    I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too
    We note this odious coward is all too redy to make dishonest claims he is unable to substantiate - Perhaps the odious cowardly creep would care to have the ethics to identify a single solitary libel in ANY of my blogs as he has made the dishonest comment and likewise relative to Junius - However as I and presumably Junius have not sunk to the levels of dishonesty and libel of this UKIP supporter no example or apology will ever be presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.
    Perhaps Batten wants the truth hidden as the panel delberates on the allegations made against him?

    Are you capable of using Google, Fonzie?
    Clearly not with any integrity or honesty hence the liars Fonzie, Independent UKIP and others use anonymity to lie and defame actions which I note neither Mjolnir nor Junius have ever sunk to to my knowledge!
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Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too
Well, if anyone does take Junius to court for libel, they'll need about £80 - 100,000 for a straightforward case.
Rather a lot of money when one considers NEVER has a libel been identified on Junius' blog and none has occurred on my blog.

As for "....UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths...", any idea why they haven't done that already? Just curious.
Clearly because they have been unable to identify a libel or dishonesty and my blog CLEARLY STATES that I will make ANY material correction of fact brought to my attention and I also offer right of reply to those I publish about.

I note Anthony Butcher is as ever hosting libel and defamatory comments and lies about me on his UKIP controlled blog - from which I was banned, based upon the lies of UKIP and the lies of Paul Nuttall on behalf of Nigel Farage & David Bannerman particularly who wished to suppress facts about them being discussed publicly - just as did Tom Wise as defended by the liar and fantasist douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinis and other self serving low lifes seeking preferment and status in UKIP.

It will be remembered that Tom Wise was guilty of the criminal behaviour I identified and pursued and served 2 years in prison - strangely Derek Clark who was also ordered to pay back money he had fraudulently obtained (A larger sum than Tom Wise had stolen we understand) has not YET been charged under British law and faced the Courts - possibly in view of his apparent senility!

I note that despite his personal notable political ambitions Anthony Butcher has risen to his metier in the status of utter irrelevance held by a Parish Councillor discussing Dog poo as he does on his parish blog - matters of significance clearly being beyond his authority and his odious self serving dishonesty and obsequious oleaginous comments on the Forum he runs under the control of UKIP, hosting serial attacks and dishonest defamation on behalf of UKIP's cowardly claque, may in part explain this.
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Is this an increasing sign of the control of the freedom of speech and a form of corrupt ‘Big Brother’ bullying?

I believe this was the post in question which would seem to be nothing more than factual and legitimate comment:

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it seems strange that the suppression of this posting has been made as the text seemed to be nothing more than a series of statements of fact - surely it can not even in the burgeoning police state, that seems to be the way forward of The EU, that it can already be legitimate to suppress facts and the truth!


I would contend that all that Junius would seem to have done was show the close linkage of Gerard Batten with criminals and extremists like
Gregory Lauder-Frost and variouys extreme right wing groups.

Can it be that MEPs can now abuse their positions as elected representatives to hide fact6s about themselves.

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It is hardly a secret that Gerard Batten has some particularly odious views based on what would seem to be verging on incitement to hatred towards followers of Islam - presumably based on his own religious supertitions and as his wife is/was Philipino may it be that he is representing an extreme Catholic viewpoint ratjher than the genuine interests of his electorate at large in The UK.

That Gerard Batten has been a guest speaker at some organisations which I and others may consider extremist and has published racist positions regarding creed is surely a legitimate issue for discussion when related to an elec ted individual feeding from the public purse.

I have a copy of the text removed FROM Junius and can see no slander, insult, libel or the like in that text - It would seem to be a statement of facts each seemingly easily verified.

IF Gerard Batten believes that Junius has posted incorrect FACTS then surely his first course of action ethically is to contact Junius and ask for the removal quoting his grounds NOT to use his elected position to promote what many would see as his deeply offensive and seemingly extreme right wing views and association with criminals and extremists.

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For more on Batten, the far right and Lauder-Frost see the Gerard Batten blog: LINK

All rather concerning as it would seem individuals can now control the publication of FACTS and other people’s legitimate opinions!


Police State?

This does rather smack of harassment, intimidation, corruption of freedom of speech and cyber bullying - just as with the recent self serving attempts of Gerard Batten the EFD & UKIP MEP who tried to fabricate complaints to suppress the publication of facts and comment about him - fortunately it would seem that after he had wasted a great deal of police time and that of others the CPS rejected his attempt to keep information and legitimate discussion and opinion from his electorate, which he presumably considered embarrassing.

The interventions on Junius' blog may well be someone doing likewise as with the various organisations many may consider distastefull and extreme with which Gerard Batten associated and his contacts with convicted criminal fraudsters Gregory Lauder-Frost, whose 2 year prison sentence can be readily verified on the internet.

I note also that Google’s ‘Blogspot’ facility has arbitrarily changed its provision from being .com with US hosting to being .co.uk could this be compliance so that The EU Police State with its clear lack of democracy can control comment and exposure of its corruption, undemocratic nature and abject failure in any intellectual, democratic or ethical sense!

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