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#0585* - GREAVES, Michael - UKIP & It's Scum!

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~GREAVES, Michael - UKIP & It's Scum!
There are many listed here with their lies and their cowardice dragging UKIP's name in the gutter they seem so at home in!

Just think that at EVERY attempt to get elected Nigel Farage and his hirelings and paid sycophants have promised to professionalise UKIP!

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GREAVES, Michael

Hi,

recently there was a further vomit of lies and dishonesty of Independent UKIP who posts in cowardly anonymity as a supporter, not of UKIP but of Nigel Farage and just as with liars like Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, The Common Man (Oh so very common and so very corrupt), they do huge damage to UKIP, with their lies and corruption and their attacks on anyone who dares to have a view point which might threaten their snout in the trough attitude.

A measure of the credibility of UKIP is shown by the catastrophic achievements for the Party in domestic elections where they constantly get trashed by the electorate - where the leadership is treated as a joke and only one person is allowed to shine.

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Yet again in the pretence of profesionalism the imbecilic Independent UKIP comes forth with abuse of supporters and a full hand of obscenities and lies:

Independent UKIP Trusted Member

A certain interesting blog has commented on this topic without anyone yet remarking on the fact so I thought it worthwhile reproducing:

This is rich - one vituperative liar quoting another as his source! Please note that time and again both these cowards have been proven beyond doubt to be liars. Rarely to they publish a constructive comment it is endless cowardly attacks on supporters of UKIP!

Wednesday, 6 July 2011
Collier wrong again, this time on Greaves.
The Common Mans attention has been drawn to a posting by Geoffrey 'Old Mother' Collier on the Democracy Forum, in which he demonstrates once again his formidable research skills.

Writing of Michael Greaves, he states "We now have appointed at public expense a Mr Greaves who claims to be a barrister and specialises in International Law. Further claims to his credit involve appearances before the International Court at the Hague. That Court has no evidence of him appearing in any capacity. Furthermore he does not appear on the Roll of Bar members who are currently practising."

The Common Man understands that this stunning piece of work is repeated elsewhere, particularly by the unfortunately not-yet-late convicted felon and self-confessed anti-semite Greg Watkins

May I suggest the liar and coward  with his pathetic comment regarding my well publicised cancer during the last 13 years (I even run a blog and a help line to assist others who may be fighting the disease).

My grievous felony was accidentally importing a legally held firearm and 50 legally owned rounds of ammunition into Britain in a 40 foot container of household effects as a result of using commercial packers some 30 years ago! Wow - master criminal!!

That I am an anti Semite is a lie with absolutely no evidence which can with any integrity support the claim. I am utterly indifferent to the superstitions, religions and beliefs of others regarding their chosen gods - as has been shown time and again over my entire life.

The comments/accusations of The Common Coward are nothing more than distortions, inventions and lies - as ever.

Repeating his lies as Independent UKIP and others do shows them also to be utterly corrupt.

and the morons at Junius. Watkins, remember, always apologises when he is wrong, although none have ever seen an apology.

Indeed never ONCE has any individual established a single material fact of consequence to be wrong in my many 1,000s of blogs. Despite the lies, misrepresentations and fantasies of the cowards who hide as trolls behind their childish names!

Michael Greaves was a court appointed defence barrister. Anyone capable of working a computer - which presumably Old Mother Collier is

Geoffrey Collier, for the record, was Chairman of one of UKIP's earliest branches and built it to be one of UKIP's largest and most productive branches. Now long retired this donor, supporter and patriotic man of conscience continues to support UKIP despite the filth that endlessly seek to belittle and demean him and thereby do such damage to UKIP as a party.

- could have discovered this through conducting a simple case search of the International Criminal Court searching case files rather than simply searching for web pages. There are actually some 40 documents which name Greaves as a defence attorney representing several defendants.

All of which are relatively obscure and somewhat dated!

The Common Man now awaits the attack on Greaves based on who he, as a defence barrister at the ICC, was appointed to represent.

Why would anyone do that? It is the duty of a Barrister under British Law and international law to defend or prosecute for their client.
Inventing scenarios as accusations is just the sort of dishonesty we see time and again but NEVER with the subsequent claimed outcome from these pond life!

The Common Man and Bob Pacific will be hugely amused at those who want a 'clean' UKIP attacking the right of a defendant, even at the International Criminal Court, to be represented, and somehow suggesting that because counsel is appointed to the defendants, this is somehow indicative of support for the crimes of which those defendants are accused.

The Common Man is also aware that, unlike solicitors, there is no requirement for Barristers to be registered with the Bar. Will Old Mother Collier now apologise for smearing an eminent lawyer?

You will note that more recent referrence to Michael greaves shows him to have been removed from a case for his failures of competence and it seems he has not or is not legally able to practice subsequently.

Past experience suggests that this is unlikely, and instead he will repeat his lies endlessly, thinking that that will somehow make them true.

Surely it ill becomes a liar and low life too cowardly to use his identity to dishonestly promote such a corrupt statement for which he can provide no provenance.

Needless to say, Colliers other allegations are equally well researched and equally false.

We note that this liar can provide a single example of a falsehood by Mr. Collier.

The Common Man wonders how he can have the gall to talk about 'we' when referring to UKIP, when clearly he is batting for the other team, but that's another rumour which it would be wrong of us to continue probing.

Since this very Common Coward is founding his claim on lies he does make a fool; of himself.

The Common Man merely observes that for someone ostensibly if dishonestly campaigning for a clean up of UKIP, Collier has provided a remarkable way of telling what is true and what is false. If he wrote it, it's false.

This Common coward should not judge others and present them as he himself behaves - it is bnoth corrupt, dishonest and cowardly.

Decision on Prosecution's Application to Admit Transcripts under Rule 92bis
IN THE TRIAL CHAMBER
Before:
Judge Patrick Robinson, Presiding
Judge Richard May
Judge Mohamed Fassi Fihri
Registrar:
Mr. Hans Holthuis
Order of:
23 May 2001
PROSECUTOR
v.
DUSKO SIKIRICA
DAMIR DOSEN
DRAGAN KOLUNDZIJA
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DECISION ON PROSECUTION’S APPLICATION
TO ADMIT TRANSCRIPTS UNDER RULE 92 BIS
__________________________________________________ _________
The Office of the Prosecutor:
Mr. Dirk Ryneveld
Ms. Julia Baly
Mr. Daryl Mundis
Counsel for the Accused:
Mr. Veselin Londrovic and Mr. Michael Greaves, for Dusko Sikirica
Mr. Vladimir Petrovic and Mr. Goran Rodic, for Damir Dosen
Mr. Ivan Lawrence and Mr. Jovan Ostojic, for Dragan Kolundzija

Which can be found at http://www.icc-cpi.int/NR/rdonlyres/...383/373541.pdf
Posted by The Common Man at 16:17

This blogger is getting rather ahead of him/herself as nobody, here at least, has presently criticised Mr Greaves for defending accused persons in The Hague.

I'm not terribly surprised nobody at the "International Court" has heard of Mr Greaves as so far as I am aware no such body is in existence.

Had anyone wasted the time of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) they would have found Mr Greaves' activity there.

Here is a totally random page of transcripts involving Mr Greaves from the Sikirica trial mentioned above.

I would suggest that Mr Greaves has been rather active in international criminal trials held in The Hague in recent years. I do however fear Mr Collier will not be satisfied with this factual explanation.

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It will be noted that when the comments regarding Michael Greaves were drawn to my attention by a third party I immediately published this comment:

Greg_L-W. said...

Hi, I believe Michael Greaves has been involved in trying to get The EU to pay some of Nigel Farage's large legal bills incurred as a staying motion on The Guilty Verdict against him and UKIP by the Courts. He may even be trying to raise the money he morally owes me in the UKIP sponsored Harassment case they prosecuted against me, which they lost in The Courts. Many will remember that Paul Nuttall & Clive Page were the closest thing Mark Croucher could find as plausible witnesses - However The Judge found none of their case plausible and they even had costs awarded against they - costs they have still dishonoured in UKIP's normal contempt for British values and Justice! Let us face it Farage and his claque all too often scuttle for cover behind the shirts of The EU - Clearly they are aware that without The EU jobs they would be unlikely to rise above Mare of some Parish Council - look at their UK results which have been a litany of failure and folly. Regards, Greg_L-W.

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You may be interested to note that subsequently I found Michael Greaves would seem not to have been quoted in practice for some time that I could establish and it was then that suspicion led to further searches and I note that he has been shown to have been dismissed from a major case as follows:

Nairobi, 29 May 2002 (IRIN) - The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Arusha, Tanzania, has discharged Michael Greaves, the lead defence counsel for a genocide suspect, the Hirondelle News Agency reported. It said the tribunal's deputy registrar, Lovemore Munlo, had signed the decision on 23 May. In the document Munlo said Greaves had only partially responded to grievances his client, Rwandan former Civil Service Minister Prosper Mugiraneza, had put to him, Hirondelle reported. At the end of 2001, Mugiraneza had filed a request before the tribunal's registry for Greaves' dismissal, Hirondelle reported. Mugiraneza accused Greaves, a British national, of a lack of communication, lack of diligence and delay in filing a request for assignment of a co-counsel. He also accused Greaves of a breach of confidentiality, and complained of a lack of scheduling and evaluation of activities, as well as disagreements on the defence strategy. The registry said Greaves had been informed of all the grievances for his opinion, but in his reply on 10 January had "only addressed the grievance of lack of communication, one relating to breach of confidentiality and requested to be withdrawn from the case". The registry said, "His declining and refusal to get involved in a fee-splitting arrangement is the root of his client's request for withdrawal of his assignment." It added that despite four reminders this year, Greaves had failed to reply to the registry's letters. Eventually, the registry said, it had to rely on Greave's bar association to compel him to respond. Greaves had also failed to attend a hearing of 5 April, the registry said, and "as of today [Tuesday], despite the involvement of the General Council, he is still unwilling to cooperate with the registry".

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE 

I seem to be unable to locate signs that Michael Greaves has practiced as a Barrister in any Court subsequently - I do not leap to the conclusion that he has had his accreditation as a Barrister withdrawn but he may well have felt his reliability and integrity were no longer upto the job - I know not.

Much as the liars and low lifes posturing as maggots in the dung heap from which UKIP's risible leadership crow - as yet never once have any of these maggots shown me to have published anything but the truth, nor have they ever shown that I have in the last 30 years been funded from the public purse for political activity, nor that I have EVER published material in support of these United Kingdoms membership of the supra national and utterly corrupt undemocratic EU from which so many of them seem to draw their authority and incomes!

The endless posturing of these dishonest fools does nothing but harm to UKIP.

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I note today, after a conversation with them Junius has run with further links and details regarding Michael Greaves (there is no shortage on which to build!

Here is the Junius article:

Micheal Greaves

You may recall that we recently wrote about Micheal Greaves, Nigel's friend, EFD staff member and UKIP General Secretary. Greaves was appointed without any consultation with MEPs whatsoever, into a high-salary job with Farage's delegation in Brussels.

The story about Michael Greaves could be about to take a new turn. He was dismissed from an International Tribunal for gross incompetence.

Here is an interesting article:

RWANDA: International tribunal discharges lead defence counsel

Nairobi, 29 May 2002 (IRIN) - The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Arusha, Tanzania, has discharged Michael Greaves, the lead defence counsel for a genocide suspect, the Hirondelle News Agency reported. It said the tribunal's deputy registrar, Lovemore Munlo, had signed the decision on 23 May. In the document Munlo said Greaves had only partially responded to grievances his client, Rwandan former Civil Service Minister Prosper Mugiraneza, had put to him, Hirondelle reported. At the end of 2001, Mugiraneza had filed a request before the tribunal's registry for Greaves' dismissal, Hirondelle reported. Mugiraneza accused Greaves, a British national, of a lack of communication, lack of diligence and delay in filing a request for assignment of a co-counsel. He also accused Greaves of a breach of confidentiality, and complained of a lack of scheduling and evaluation of activities, as well as disagreements on the defence strategy.

The registry said Greaves had been informed of all the grievances for his opinion, but in his reply on 10 January had "only addressed the grievance of lack of communication, one relating to breach of confidentiality and requested to be withdrawn from the case". The registry said, "His declining and refusal to get involved in a fee-splitting arrangement is the root of his client's request for withdrawal of his assignment." It added that despite four reminders this year, Greaves had failed to reply to the registry's letters. Eventually, the registry said, it had to rely on Greave's bar association to compel him to respond. Greaves had also failed to attend a hearing of 5 April, the registry said, and "as of today [Tuesday], despite the involvement of the General Council, he is still unwilling to cooperate with the registry".

To read the original: LINK

So much for Nigel's promise to professional the party. So another incompetent is promoted to a position of authority within the Party. They never learn!

For more on Greaves: LINK 

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Here for the record is the response of Geoffrey Collier to the pernicious lies and self delluding dishonesty of Independent UKIP and his dishonest chum The Common Man as they set out as so often before to drag UKIP's name in the gutter these cowards inhabit:

Independent UKIP. I thought that better sources than those from Mark 'Bunny Girl' Croucher (Common Man) to support your case would be better. I think that you will find that he is in default of a court order for him to pay costs to a person who resides in Chepstow. I now deal with the accusations. First, which 'other accusations' have I made which have been untrue? Having proven himself to be a serial failure, is anything that 'Bunny Girl' says worthy of comment? References to the International Court at the Hague are permissible, correct and used for purposes of identification by the international press. If you are not surprised that the International Court has not heard of Mr Greaves, presumably they haven't access to their different divisions; that comment worth noting. Equally, the reason why Mr Greaves does not appear of the Roll of Barristers can be for several reasons; and every one can be sound. Not an accusation Ind. UKIP, but merely a comment. Can we assume that Mr Greaves no longer practises, depite the situation being different in the past? I don't claim to know. What is your information should you possess any? Are we to assume that Mr Greaves is a member, or a former member, of the Bar of England and Wales? In that case wouldn't he be known to one of the Inns of Court? What do you find objectionable or unreasonable about that?

Let us seek context, Ind.UKIP. I was assured emphatically when making equiries about the Hon. Sobey-Neville that he was the son of an hereditary earl. The father was Chairman of Deutsche Bank, 'I suppose you have heard of Deutsche Bank' I was asked sharply. To whom was I speaking? No other than Mark 'Bunny Girl' Croucher: our own Common Man. Failed litigant, alehouse keeper, editor; the list is endless. I understand, however, that he was successful in passing to Searchlight the names of UKIP members. Croucher was working with Sobey by day, while providing accommodation by night for another UKIP employee, who was a convicted Benefit fraudster. Another problem at the same time was a gentleman claiming to be the great-nephew of a former prime minister. Even the full NEC was duped by that imposter.

I fear Ind, UKIP, that there are many reasons that should dictate caution when dealing with stories about our 'eminent' employees. Which 'factual expalantion' are you providing? Are you assuring us that Mr Greaves is a practising member of the English Bar? The Inn of Court of which he is a member is known to you, and you can identify it by name? Give us the facts about which you boast!

Independent UKIP: I didn't question anything, I merely said that it is in the public domain that when inquiries were made, evidence of a barrister with the name Michael Greaves could not be provided by the International Court at the Hague. The evidence to which you produce is about ten years old, and it is presumed that it is the same individual of the same name who works for UKIP; and perhaps it is. I never said that he hasn't appeared at the Court in the Hague, I said that those who were motivated to seek confirmation were unable, for whatever reason, to gain confirmation were unsuccessful. Against UKIP's previous experiences, would you consider it prudent to be cautious when claims about their senior personnel are made? The term International Court at the Hague is used by the media, to imply that the issue falls under that body of law called International Law. I think President Woodrow Wilson would claim some credit for its existence. Britain has been defeated at the Hague; the Suez fiasco, was one example. But Britain has also won there when, for example, we were in dispute with Iceland about a fishing matters. As I said previously, the International Court is a generic term for that group of courts in the Hague.

Confining the matter to UKIP's Michael Greaves, does he still practise at the Bar, and which Inn of Court is he a member? Mr Farage assured us that once elected, he would make UKIP more professional. It seems reasonable, therefore, that information about someone like Greaves should be known to the members. What is your complaint?

Geoffrey Collier with his details and scrupulous integrity and his long term knowledge of UKIP over all the years he has supported it does rather show these odious cowards for the dishonest and self serving low lifes they clearly are.

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You will also note his name in the >Sidebar<
in the section >UKIP Its ASSOCIATES & DETAILS<

as with many other characters and details you may wish to explore!

You may count on the FACT that every item of FACT which I have published you may relly upon as it has been scoured and checked by the enemies of UKIP as shown, named and shamed - NEVER ONCE requiring an alteration of material; consequence.

Sould you find a single detail to be wrong please contact me as soon as possible identifying my error and yourself and it will be corrected as soon as it can be substantiated.

Thank YOU.

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