#0744* - UKIP Loses Another Councillor

#0744* - UKIP Loses Another Councillor 
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UKIP Loses Another Councillor!
Just imagine the disaster if UKIP had ANY authority!

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Hi,


talk about unfit for purpose - can you imagine a party that is so unprofessional that it supplies lists of its distribution membership freely, as shown by their crassly amateur, so called, party secretary!


Let us not forget UKIP has a track record of complete irresponsibility in data protection even being censured by The Data protection Commission through the courts!


It was after all UKIP that indulged in Cyber Bullying by posting a candidates confidential video on YouTube.


You will remember the lies and dishonesty and attempted cyber bullying to suppress the truth and intimidate by its press office, NEC members and even the lies of MEPs desperate to suppress the truth! NEC members such as Douglas Denny, Mick McGough or MEPs like Stuart Agnew, Graham Booth, Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen etc.


Now we see once more the efforts of its leadership to once again force through changes to its constitution, crassly ill presented amateurishly ill written and once more trying desperately to eradicate democracy and concentrate POWER in the hands of one man.


Let us not forget that these efforts have already been voted down previously but be minded  UKIP is very much an integral part of The EU scam and like The EU makes its subjects vote and vote and vote again to get the result they 'demand'!


You will also note for just how long some of its more senior members like Michael Harvey, David Nixon and the like have been trying to persuade the party to act ethically but with little result - you will remember David Nixon resigned almost a year ago but did not carry it through until now - so out of their tiny group of elected Councillors yet another has quit UKIP in disgust at their dishonesty and lack of democracy.


We all KNOW Steven Woolfe was parachuted in as lead candidate as a drinking buddy of Farage's - The number one list candidate in London was elected by the members yet he has been bumped down to suit Farage!

The elected list, I am reliably informed by several individuals, was:

1st David Coburn
2nd Lawrence Webb
3rd Paul Oakley
4th Steven Woolfe
5th Helen Dixon
6th Elizabeth Jones

Is this what UKIP wishes for our country, rigged elections and selection processes overriding the democratic rights of the voters?

I have been promised a number of letters including resignation letters which I will publish if they take the factual position forward constructively towards a Clean-Up of UKIP to TRY to make it fit for purpose rather than an aid to The EU!

Just consider where the corruption of elections has led UKIP - it was Farage's CHOICES like David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew (Thick as pig sh*t but loaded - to quote Farage), Ashley Moat parachuted in to raise Farage's credibility, the liar and fraud Marta Andreasen, Paul Nuttall forcing out Gregg Beaman etc. etc. The list is as long as UKIP's history and just as corrupt! 

You will also remember the esteem in which UKIP leadership hold their councillors from the belated and most perfunctory note of the untimely death of one of their few decent achievers Steve Povey and do note the fact that apart from a rather limp electoral circular they put no effort into retaining any of his seats despite having a willing candidate with public sympathy on his side as his son - UKIP lost EACH seat! 

Labour ex-minister and former Staffordshire Moorlands MP Charlotte Atkins won a district council seat from Ukip at Leek North on a switch of more than 19% since last May.

Tory Neal Podmore gained Staffordshire's Leek South division.

These two seats became vacant after the death of a Ukip councillor who represented both of them.

Analysis of six comparable results suggest a projected 2% nationwide Labour lead over Conservative, the same margin calculated in a BBC survey of last May's council polls.

This week's line-up based on five wards fought both times by all three major parties is: C 36.1%, Lab 34.5%, Lib Dem 19.3%.

RESULTS

Hampshire County - Winchester Southern Parishes:
C 1661, Lib Dem 1038, Ukip 133, Green 130, Lab 124. (June 2009 - C 2625, Lib Dem 1232, Ukip 557, Lab 139). C hold. Swing 5.2% C to Lib Dem.

Northamptonshire County - Towcester:
Lib Dem 1279, C 638, Ukip 124, BNP 66. (June 2009 - C 1648, Lib Dem 760, Lab 293). Lib Dem gain from C. Swing 31.6% C to Lib Dem.

South Lakeland District - Windermere Town:
Lib Dem 418, C 85, Lab 50, Ukip 20. (May 2011 - Lib Dem 537, C 117, Lab 114). Lib Dem hold. Swing 1.7% C to Lib Dem.

South Northamptonshire District - Towcester Brook:
Lib Dem 774, C 401, Ukip 129. (May 2011 - Three seats Lib Dem 857, C 831, Lib Dem 811, C 785, 753, Lib Dem 645, Ukip 266, 178). Lib Dem gain from C. Swing 13.6% C to Lib Dem.

Staffordshire County - Leek South:
C 725, Ukip 556, Lab 432, Lib Dem 419, Moorlands Democratic Alliance 336, Ind 192. (June 2009 - Ukip 1766, C 1355, Lib Dem 905, Lab 470, Green 323). C gain FROM Ukip. Swing 7.4% Ukip to C.

Staffordshire Moorlands District - Leek North:
Lab 514, Ukip 188, C 178, Moorlands Democratic Alliance 33, Lib Dem 24 . (May 2011 - Three seats Ukip 694, Lab 657, 527, C 423, Ukip 336, Ind 277, C 275, 170). Lab gain from Ukip. Swing 19.1% Ukip to Lab.

Suffolk County - Kesgrave and Rushmere St Andrews:
C 1302, Lab 804, Lib Dem 514. (June 2009 - Two seats C 2821, 2799, Lib Dem 1426, 1378, Lab 689, 546). C hold. Swing 13.2% C to Lab.

Suffolk Coastal District - Kesgrave East:
C 531, Lab 241, Lib Dem 194. (June 2011 - Three seats C 1405, 1390, 1343, Lab 704, 606, Lib Dem 561, Green 542, Lib Dem 443). C hold. Swing 3.3% Lab to C.

From: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:39:41 -0500 (EST)

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Subject: Re: Constitution

Thanks for this David,

The PEPP ballot was conducted after proper debate and the real UKIP Party voted against it quite rightly. I did say before the PEPP debate that we should see the new Constitution before we voted on the PEPP Issue.

We are now in a situation where 90% of our members will not understand what it is all about when they vote. This is not good enough,

   Martin Harvey Chairman UKIP Broxbourne, member since 1995 or earler.

In a message dated 10/02/2012 20:02:23 GMT Standard Time, fongyphonics@hotmail.co.uk writes:

From: David Nixon

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:02:04 +0000

To: Michael Greaves; Robert Snare; Angela Scriven; J Lesingham; Ann Rapnik; dmrsec@ukipberkshire.co.uk; S Martin; Mrs B Fairweather; R Ness; James McCulloch; Chris French; John Buckley; Tony Stone; A Sheehan; M Lyon; Michael Bedford; Steve Richards; r shanks; garreth evans; george_busybee@btinternet.com; J DICKER; steve harris; C Bridewell; Rose Lynden-Bell; christina latham; jill collin; Philip Pinto; Robert Cane; Celia Pilling; David M Black; Laurence Hughes; Steve Smith; Michael Wigley; Christopher Browne; I Davison; Jean Wisker; mark stroud; John Holt; Adrian Stevens; Victor Webb; R Ings; Gwendoline Girdwood; E Ashwell; Richard Squire; Mike; J Granata; Richard Crowder; Peter Lucas; M Day; Richard Scammell; P Collins Chairman; Dave Parker; Warwick Knowles; Philip Cork; ukipchristchurch@tiscali.co.uk; Jenny Knight; John baxter; Peter Jenkins; Lesley Kelly; ralph gay; Duncan Richardson; John Knight; richard stanton; Charles Robertson; elizabeth burton; Peter Smith; David Salmon; John Harvey; P Milverton; Stephanie McWilliam; Guy Parfitt; Anthony McIntyre; C Mozley; S Guppy; steve parker; C Allen; Dorothy Baker; Gaston Dezart; Ian Walsh; P Le Maistre; C Guyton; Alan James; arthurhamlins@talktalk.net; J Gulleford; Martin Harvey; Christopher Streatfield; Helene Davies; peter reeve; George Curtis; Andrew Smith; Susan Smith; rex parkinson-hare; Cllr John Barry; Margaret King; charles lawman; Janet Culley; lisa duffy; John Youles; P Grimes; F Fox; Evan Heasley; Leon Stedman; JOHN BUTCHER; Marion Mason; Kerry Smith; W Mountford; Renie Price; Michael Stone; IAN SMITH; P Lancaster Chairman; P Sheehan; P Rowe; P Hughes; John Rawles; R Allen; peter cope; Cilla Bethell; J White<1jericho@live.co.uk>; John Galloway; S Lewis; J Mabbott; M Lynch; steve povey; M Harold; A Illsley; L Wragg; Brett Parsons; I gardner; derek bennett; Jill Seymour; alan sheath; george lawson; Mark Starr; Barry Hodgson; C Humphries; Michael Wrench; H Reed; roy hopwood; Hamish Howitt; Michael Owen; J Mallinson; Brian Jarvis; T Commis; M Bayliss; S Noble; Neil Miney; robert willescroft; P Griffiths; P Gaskell; Chris Cassidy; Gary Robinson; Peter Cuddy; Frederick McGlade; Marie McNulty; Alan Freeman Wigan; Marlene Waddington; W Jenner; Christine Diamond; wjohnbailey; a.p.pandya@lse.ac.uk; Martin Shelvey; M Watson; david coburn; Graham W. Mills; Maxine Spencer; Chisholm; James Bochsler; Philip Gordon; Vanessa Crichton; don ransome; C Swabey; David Rogerson; Peter Conquest; S Hassall; marilyn swain; Willem Veldhuizen; Nicholas Smith; m storier; A Hamilton; Jim Macarthur; Keith Marriott; Heather Ward; John Scutter; n robinson; B Pexton; S Hilson; jane collins; don ukip; J Upex; A Marsland; K Hordon; Peter Morgan; Nathan Clark Garbutt; Tim Veal; Tina Dowdall; Nigel James; Ian Bannister; Clive Easton; Gwyn Parry; Michael Squires; Barry Rogers; T Greaves; C Williams; F Wykes; NathanGill1@aol.com; margaret weatheritt; nigel coghill; Eric Wilson; D Cottrell; Alexis Fernandes; gordon parkin; martin bulmer; Henry Marshall; Richard Elvin; D Watters; G Norrie; P Adams; mark bekusch; Ross Durance; pete quick; Nathan Brittain; I Tyler; S Povey; C Lovatt; R Herbert; Ralph Berry; P Smith; I Tyres; K Sinclair; N Jukes; B Mahoney; J Lodder; B Hicks; Roger Fowkes

Cc: sjcrowther@btinternet.com; vote.jonathan@googlemail.com ;

Subject: RE: Constitution

When we have chosen candidates before and put them in order of preference for the E.U. elections along comes a person whom we have never heard of, who has never stood in an election for the party , who has never slogged round streets leafleting day after day, who was never a member of the party before the sudden parachuting in, etc.etc. to name but one, Kilroy-silk. I for one have had enough of this so called democratic party and am not rejoining. Borough Councill and Staffs County Councillor. David Nixon

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:30:33 +0100

Subject: Constitution

From: Michael Greaves

<ukip.partysecretary@gmail.com>

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Dear Fellow UKIP members

Thank you so much for writing in with your observations on the constitution.

I respectfully disagree with your proposition and urge you to vote "YES" to this new document which is so important for the future of the Party.

The proposition made is inaccurate as the new Constitution will NOT change candidate selection procedures.  The candidate selection procedures will be the same whether or not the Constitution is passed.

The relevant Rules permitting a Constituency Association to select from the Approved List are now within the Party's Rules of Procedure, which states:

B.5.1 It is the responsibility of branches to seek to nominate candidates for parliamentary and local elections within the branch area, acting in accordance with the rules laid down in Sections R,S,T,U and V of the Rules of Procedure.

S.15 Only applicants on the national approved list may apply to a branch or Constituency Association for an adoption/hustings meeting.

S.16 Adoption/hustings meetings shall be advertised so that all candidates on the Approved List have the right to apply for selection in any constituency.

S.17 Constituency Associations or branches which fail to select candidates within the timescale in the PPC Selection Procedure may forfeit the right to select their candidates, with the responsibility being undertaken by the region.

S.18 Where there is more than one applicant in a given constituency, an open hustings meeting must be held in accordance with the PPC Selection Procedure.

S.19 In this event, the choice of candidate shall be made through a ballot in accordance with the PPC Selection Procedure.

I suggest that these provisions make clear that the effect suggested is not in fact the reality.

Yours sincerely

Michael Greaves

Party Secretary

One must appreciate the irrefutable fact that UKIP leadership are ONLY interested in themselves and self enrichment using sock puppets as liars, cheats and cyber bullies as the only way they can retain office as clearly they do not do so on democratic principles or British values being in association with racists, anti Jewish, anti homosexual, Zionist scum of EU politics who advocate violence and murder as policy, gave words of succour to Anders Brevick subsequent to his vile xenophobic murder spree and as The EFD Group advocate EU membership and revision of the scam to suit their personal needs and greeds.

We even had the spectacle of Nigel Farage telling outright lies on National TV as he claimed to have fired Tom Wise and more recently his lies that UKIP had 2 female MEPs when it was he who was found guilty of abuse by the Courts in firing Nikki Sinclaire who to save face and curry favour for Stuart Wheeler's money he has had to make overtures to try to get to rejoin the UKIP MEPs - This he has singularly FAILED to achieve in over a year of clearly implausible negotiations.

Imagine what UKIP would be like if they had ANY authority in Governance!


By way of support of the facts led in the article above I add:

Mike Nattrass MEP on the proposed changes:

UKIP MEMBERS

You will have had the proposed UKIP Constitution information and voting paper, with the magazine.

The newly proposed constitution takes power away from Branches and the Conference. it also moves back in favour of Pan European Parties.

There is one voice for and yet no counter proposal at all ....... and we are again being railroaded and given no time to talk about the issues.

Please consider it seriously before voting.

I shall vote NO.

Herewith some of the paragraphs worth looking at:-
 

3.3 and 3.4 open the door for pan european parties.

4.2.1 gives NEC carte blanche to introduce whatever they like.

4.3.d does this apply to Lord Pearson?

4.4.1 this allows the Party to keep Lord Pearson in the party ranks.

4.9 Yet another paragraph giving undefined power to the NEC.

6.3 deals with elections to the NEC but no mention of regional representation on the NEC.

7.1 gives the Leader the power to 'give political direction....and the development of policies. It should be 'assists in giving political direction'.

12.1.1 gives the NEC unlimited and undefined power concerning selection.


12.1.2 a clumsy way of preventing another Ashley Mote incident.


12.6.7.8 gives power to the NEC and away from the local constituency in
the selection of candidates.

12.11 this strengthens up any undertaking by prospective MEPs to belong to a 'grouping' But the make up of such a group is not defined (3.3. and 3.4. would allow for any group 'subject to the right of the Leaderand the NEC jointly to decide...).


In other words UKIP MEPs can be forced to belong to another EFD or ID group along with those who are federalists and extremists.

From: charles@myqualities.com

Subject: Vote 'No' to the new Constitution

Date: 7 February 2012 17:37:15 GMT

Dear UKIP activists,

Under the new Constitution the selection of candidates for Euro elections and General elections remains with the NEC. Branch or ConstituencynAssociations may only select candidates for Local elections in their area.


I believe that UKIP will not flourish unless Regional and Branch committees have the right to select UKIP candidates for Euro and General elections. Therefore I am voting 'No' to the new Constitution.


This is NOT because I have been denied membership of the approved Party list - I have never applied, and have no plans to do so. It is because UKIP is in danger of becoming a fiefdom. We demand that the EU has democratic legitimacy, but deny local activists the most important task of all - the selection of a local candidate to represent their area. Regional committees should have the final decision on Euro candidates - Branch committees on General election candidates. This is not to deny the NEC the right to create an approved list of candidates, but the list must be advisory only.


Yours sincerely,
Charles Swabey


Branch Chairman
Central & South Derbyshire

From: vanessa [mailto:spice.girl@btinternet.com]

Sent: 08 February 2012 12:04
Cc: Dmrsec@Ukipberkshire. Co. Uk
Subject: New Constitution

You have probably received the latest "Independence" magazine with the new Constitution inside with your ballot papers to vote "yes" or "no".  I have had a long chat to some people within UKIP and I have been persuaded to vote NO and I am urging you to do the same.

I have been alerted that there are clauses in the new constitution which make it easier for UKIP to join a Pan-European party and therefore be given a great deal of "our" money to help the EU cause.

Also the membership vote for the Assembly List was re-jigged so the first 2 voted to the top of the list were put further down.  I am not happy about this because this is not acceptable in a party purporting to be democratic. 

I do hope you will agree with this and vote NO to the new constitution.

Kind regards

Vanessa Crichton

Vanessa Crichton was the UKIP PPC for Hammersmith. It's a constituency where Vanessa is also the Chairman of UKIP West London.  it is claimed: Vanessa Crichton has built up West London UKIP despite the obstacles the likes of Wiffen have put in her place.

You may also find this article of interest: CLICK HERE

If you want to read the recycling of previously rejected ideas voted down by the members - you will find it crassly over wordy and self important and reads like a document written by a failed third world law student now practicing behind a brass plate LLb Fld Bombay! But you may be bored enough to want to scan it so CLICK HERE

Such a pity UKIP has absolutely no idea of ethics, integrity or professionalism! As it keeps making abundantly clear.

Noting these facts and no doubt the utterly unprofessional total disregard of Farage's placeman Michael Greaves in his desperate attempt to rebutt critics of the latest rewrite of UKIP Constitution in yet another attempt to legitimise what UKIP leadership already does when it rigs and fixes Party elections to suit themselves regardless of the wishes - even the votes of members!

I note Charles Swabey wrote again:
From: charles@myqualities.com
Subject: Say 'No' to the new Constitution
Date: 8 February 2012 15:05:24 GMT
To: ukip.partysecretary@gmail.com

Dear Party Secretary,

Thank you for your response. It would have been nice if the 'Rules' to which you refer had also been circulated to members.

However, as you know perfectly well mere 'Rules of Procedure' will always be inferior to the principal Constitutional document. If there is any conflict between the two, the Constitution will always prevail, as it so often does in the USA - where the Constitutional issue is always fought out in the final Court of Appeal.

Para B.5.1. of your Rules of Procedure allows branches to 'nominate' candidates but not to decide. I believe that Regional Committees and Branches should have the 'right to decide'. Mere nomination to the NEC is a worthless prerogative for Regional and Branch committees because this Constitution transfers real powers of selection to the NEC.

I do not argue with your Paras S.15 to S.19 - but they make no difference to the central objection that the new Constitution cements the right of the NEC to determine who will be selected to represent UKIP in every region for Euro elections, and every constituency for Parliamentary and Local elections.

I regret to say that your response emphatically underlines my fears that UKIP Regional committees and Branch committees are no longer to be trusted to undertake the important role of selecting suitable candidates to represent the local community. Without trust you cannot expect the wholehearted support of grass root members to get behind their candidate. Without strong commited support at local level a candidate's chance of election is dramatically impaired.

Yours sincerely,

Charles Swabey

Chairman
Central and South Derbyshire

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