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Monday, 20 February 2012

#0752* - UKIP Supporters' Damaging Cyber Bullying & Lies

#0752* - UKIP Supporters' Damaging Cyber Bullying & Lies
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UKIP Supporters' like KrisH, Mick McGough, Independent UKIP, Douglas Denny, Skeptyk, Gerard Batten and others show that Cyber Bullying & Lies, cheating and dishonesty are extremely damaging to UKIP!

It is clear that on a greatly rising tide of EUroScepticism UKIP's failure is exacerbated by the behaviour of its aspirant supporters (cowards, cheats, liars, fraudsters and cyber bullies) and association with racism, anti homosexuality, holocaust denial, anti judaism, advocacy of violence and the dregs of EUropean politics!

The lack of leadership ability, strategy or valid tactics is a reflection of the clear lack of professionalism and disinterest in its membership or Country beyond self enrichment of a small clique and agrandisement of their claque!

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I note the cyber cowards and liars are up to speed with their jobs!

Whether individuals like Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Gothmog, KrisH and the like are merely cowards who know they are telling lies and are ashamed or are rewarded for their dishonesty and unpleasant manner, so damaging to UKIP and the EUroRealist cause and therefore having prostituted their ethics is a matter of conjecture but endlessly having them repeat their lies and feeble efforts as cyber bullies hidden behind the cowardly cloak of anonymity without being denounced by UKIP has done the party immense harm.

As a member 'Trusted' on the UKIP controlled squalid little Forum of Antyhony Butcher's Independent UKIP currently leads the charge!

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Quote QUOTES the opinion Originally Posted by Steve Morson View Post
Well.....

Everyone I've seen supports their assertions validly, except for 1 or 2 UKIP members. Like you. As we've seen.

I've asked repeatedly for sensitive flowers to point out where I've been rude. Not a single, specific instance has been quoted.

I'm I see now I've rattled I-UKIP's cage, he's responded (and of course, I can't see it). So predictable.
Despite being a compulsive liar Mr Lance-Watkins maintains he always tells the truth in everything he says. Despite obdurate rudeness over many months you maintain you've never been rude. Is he grooming you to take over? You're demonstrating increasingly familiar traits.
Clearly a dishonest attempt to mislead people as neither Independent UKIP nor any of the other maggots feeding on the corruption in UKIP, and too ashamed to use their own names when abusing people, has EVER shown a single solitary consequential inaccuracy in ANY of my many 1,000s of postings!

I am also unaware of them ever being able to materially fault those posting as Junius. I am aware they haven't a clue who posting facts as Junius but I am aware that there is a strong possibility UKIP may find itself in Court YET AGAIN were they to interfere in someone's employment based on their various false guesses!

I note (thanks) that Niall warry has read my blog, as do UKIP leadership and their puppets and muppets, desperately trying to find a factual inaccuracy - at which they have clearly and totally failed to date. Much as they may wish to disagree with the clearly stated opinions I also voice!

Niall Warry quoted:

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A rather foolish statement as anyone will note as Niall Warry said absolutely nothing with which he could disagree but he is so programmed to be offensive that he has made rather a fool of himself. Clearly he could not disagree with my comment as clearly he was not in conversation with me - probably too much of a coward or advised by his puppet masters that he was on far too weak ground to risk direct contact!

May I thank Steve Morson for his support in rebutting this foolish little chappie and refuting what the serial liar Independent UKIP said originally (for the umpteenth time without a shred of evidence of EVER showing a material fact posted by me to be materially inaccurate), he just keeps repeating his lines, presumably for his UKIP funded rewards - a bit like the odious liar, cheat and criminally inclined public nuisance Mick McGough!

Anyway - my thanks to Steve Morson and Niall Warry for speaking out at the risk of being lied about and abused by the dwindling army of useful idiots cyber bullying for UKIP.

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Quote Quoting the item Originally Posted by Niall Warry View Post
GLW ends his latest blog entry with this:-
Our thanks to the many who ensure we maintain the accuracy and veracity of our postings and have done so for several years & many 1,000s of postings both on our own blogs, YouTube, eMails & Forums.....
Well, of course, I only have knowledge of GL-W thanks to 2 UKIP members - 1 an MEP - and I can only say, from personal experience, that he is quite fastidious about accuracy.
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Well, of course, I only have knowledge of GL-W thanks to 2 UKIP members - 1 an MEP - and I can only say, from personal experience, that he is quite fastidious about accuracy.
Piffle!

There are a number of articles that have been found to lack in integrity and accuracy. Articles with purposive intention; personal opinion and values from an individual with an axe to grind.
Yet one notes that in the many 1,000s of postings I have made on my blogs, other blogs and web sites - Forums and eMails UKIP have been unable to identify a single solitary factual error of any material consequence.

Yes I have an axe to grind - does not everyone of any ability to reason? One of those axes is that I can not stand corruption amongst those I misguidedly supported. I find use of fake identities to abuse and berate private individuals in ad hominem attacks beneath contempt, I am disgusted by betrayal by those I aided and voted for, I have nothing but contempt for UKIP leadership which has NOTHING to publicly curb the cyber bullying and clear dishonesty of some of its leadership and many of its supporters, presumably in aspirant hope of reward.

I have utter contempt for fraud, liars, cheats and those who seek self enrichment and self agrandisement willingly involved in racism, religious bigotry, anti homosexuality, anti judaism and espousing violence as a primary plank of political achievement or those willing to associate with such behaviour.

I have NEVER denied that I am an individual of VERY clear and openly stated opinions and values and for the likes of the creepy succubi, puppets and inccubi of UKIP leadership to berate me for having clearly held values and opinions makes them look the fools they clearly prove to be!

FOR THE RECORD:
Yet again I repeat I have NEVER, on any issue in any place or at any time, have I deliberately lied or set out to mislead anyone on any issue.

Further in all my many postings on the internet I have ALWAYS shown clearly who I am and have always made my contact details readily available.

Further I have ALWAYS strenuously endeavoured to provide accurate FACTS and clear opinions.

Further I have ALWAYS made it clear that if ANYONE believes I have made an error of FACT and have contacted me in a polite and adult manner using an identified and contactable legal persona I have been all too willing to correct any fact which they can substantiate to be untrue.

To date NEVER has any material FACT of consequence been shown to be false, untrue or deliberately misleading.

IF you disagree and can show reason for any material FACT to be corrected do contact me and any required and substantiated substantive correction will be made, acknowledged and if need be apologised for. I will NOT merely make a clandestine adjustment or removal of such an error!
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Tuesday, 15 November 2011

#0694* - Clarifying UKIP Distortions on behalf of Junius & myself

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this self serving distortion of facts by one of the many sordid sock puppets of UKIP leadership which post their dishonest lies, fantasies and corrupt propaganda on Anthony Butcher's corrupt and dishonest UKIP controlled forum - some as muppets of UKIP leadership posting in their own names and some using fake identities to hide their shame - including Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Paul Nuttall, Ray Finch, Bob Feel-Martinis, John Ison, Brendan Padmore, Stuart Parr and many others.

The posting hosted in disregard of dishonesty as ever by the corrupt Anthony Butcher  was brought to my attention by members of the JUNIUS team who have asked me to address the dishonesty in detail and expose this latest publication by this odious cowardly underbelly of UKIP corrupt leadership support.

Many of these self serving cowards working with Anthony Butcher use multiple identities and EU computers with rapidly changing ISP addresses and shared identities.

I will address this specific rubbish when I get a chance - distortions and dishonesties similar to those of other cowards such as Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, Defamation Hunter, Arthur Fonzanellie who shelter their corruption in cowardice and shame behind fake IDs.

Probably THE most significant fact in political terms is that some of these people are members of UKIP NEC, some salaried officers and no doubt some actually elected or seeking to feed from the public purse - a reflection on UKIP's clearly corrupt and self serving leadership is that never once have I been aware or made aware of any member of UKIP leadership making ANY efforrt to surb these lies and distortions and it is clear that bullying and lies are a feature of the management of UKIP.

Imagine what a vile country these United Kingdoms would be if the morality and ethics of UKIP EVER held sway here!

Clearly UKIP leadership and its parasites are examples of shame and not leadership.

I shall Fisk the posting below in the next couple of days so you can consider the responsible truth, which I defend with my name and identity.

You will note that NEVER in many 1,000s of postings has it been shown EVER that I have posted to mislead or in dishonesty - unlike UKIP and its parasites!

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At least more than 1/2 of the re-roofing job is now secure and winter tight!


I am in the fortunate position that firstly I am not answerable to any of the toe rags in UKIP leadership's claque nor do I seek popularity, income, agrandisement or preferment unlike them, nor have I ANYTHING to hide!


I also ONLY post in my own name and have no position, other than the truth to present.
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Default Junius: Behind The Real Front

A meaningless title - what 'Real Front' is it implied The Junius Team are behind?
“BNP front group” is a smear used by Alan ‘sexy’ Harvey.
As this Alan Hardy (Mea Culpa and apologies to Alan Hardy - this should have read Alan Harvey as you can see from Gutter Snipe's posting quoted immediately above - To find out about Alan Hardy see the right sidebar as he is relevant to UKIP and a member directly approved by Nigel Farage whereas I have no reason to believe Alan Harvey was or is a UKIP member though I understand he has friends and associates who support him within UKIP's senior members! My thanks for the message pointing out my mistake!) who Street Cleaner seemingly finds 'sexy' is not a part of Junius and has never written an article for them nor to their knowledge has he ever spoken with them one wonders at the relevance.

I do clearly state that I understand that like many with an interest in EU related politics it would seem an Alan Hardy (As earlier read Alan Harvey)) HAS written on the comments section of The Junius blog. Then again so have members of UKIP leadership and others including UKIP MEPs & staff!
It was Harvey who was found to be linked to the BNP via Jeffrey Marshall, BNP London Organiser;
What relevance this extensive knowledge of The BNP has to Junius or I I am unsure - though it is noted that UKIP leadership have had and it now seems still have close relations with The BNP:
It is also well publicised that UKIP are associated with extremists, racists, anti Islamists, anti homosexuality and violence in politics even now it seems Gerard Batten has fallen foul of the race laws in these United Kingdoms and is defending his behaviour we understand with the support of UKIP and the express financial support of UKIP aurthorised by Nigel Farage.

Yert again UKIP department of lost causes is squandering member's money, it seems!
Harvey's recently fallen out with a member of his 'Ulster branch' who is a long-standing BNP member - clearly the BNP membership was not an issue until they fell out.
Clearly no relevance just an attempt to smear Junius and possibly myself by UKIP who seem rightly to be denounced as The BNP in blazers by some!
Readers here will recall that Harvey’s close friend Gary Cartwright tried to get Mike Smith expelled from UKIP over supposed “strong BNP connections”.
Mike Smith many will recal was an odious, bullying and litigious buffoon and as such Gary Cartwright would seem to have acted with some sense on this issue.

Assuming it is the same Mike Smith who committed suicide well over a year ago further details can be found at CLICK HERE
It was Gary Cartwright who had to leave UKIP.
I was under the impression Gary Cartwright quit UKIP over what HE considered to be a point of principle and now works directly for the EU Parliament attached to The Unalligned Group of MEPs and is allocated primarily to Nikki Sinclaire MEP and as such has done a great deal more towards the Leave-The-EU cause than any of UKIP's sock puppets and most of their self serving parasites.
Amidst Greg Lance Watkins’ denunciation of the Swinton Circle is that it had as a speaker Tom Wise yet omits that Wise employed and was supported by Gary Cartwright, and that Cartwright was also a member of the Swinton Circle.
Yet another cowardly and dishonest statement seeking to smear from UKIP's cowardly sock puppet.

Read the article the cowardly creep has cited - wher in would be the relevance of this statement relative to Cartwright? Was he a member of The Swinton Circle? It seems this cowardly sock puppet has a fairly intimate knowledge of The Swinton Circle - Personally I couldn't name a single member though I do note it is seen as an extremist group which has given a platform to Tom Wise, Nigel Farage & Lindsay Jenkins - Tom Wise spoke for them on at least one occassion whilst awaiting trial and sentence to 2 years in prison for stealing from the public purse in abuse of his position of trust!

I KNOW the Swinton Cirlcle provided the platform with full knowledge of Tom Wise's criminality as before the courts and with Nigel Farage's encouragement!
In 2009 GL-W was chastising his associate Cartwright for his “support of criminality” claiming it “most clearly undermines [Cartwright’s] credibility”, then rather interestingly comes the sentence “Not an error that I would wish to make nor one I believe any of the contributors to Junius would wish to be associated with” – reads almost like an instruction as if Greg Lance-Watkins is trying to bring the wayward Cartwright into line doesn’t it?
What a desperate attempt to smear - so very typical of UKIP sock puppets and their vile associates.

Firstly Gary Cartwright is NOT an associate of mine nor have I even met him let alone associated with him. Just to dispel the blatant lie.

Secondly I stand by my statement as quoted at CLICK HERE

I will happily reitterate my position that I conside it a VERY poor display of judgement that ANYONE including Nigel Farage or even Crtwright gave succour to the criminal behaviour of Tom Wise who is a particularly unpleasant low life with the morality and ethics of an alley cat!

It is noted Wise was supported by Anthony Butcher, Douglas Denny, Mick McGough, Nigel Farage, Mark Croucher, Roger Helmer and many others, mainly self serving Judas Goats and Plastic EUroSceptics.


Clearly Cartwright’s refusal to toe the line over Wise still rankles as only a few months ago Greg Lance-Watkins stated Cartwright had a “crano rectally retentive attitude to Tom Wise” and that Cartwright’s job while working for Wise was to “try to dupe people”.
Do we take it that the snivelling cowardly Street Sweeper in crawling out of his gutter would claim my statement to be wrong? In mittigation Cartwright WAS employed by Wise and his and his family's income was dependent on Wise at the time - that makes his actions no less acceptable.
Perhaps GL-W would be able to state if in his opinion Cartwright did a good job duping people, and whether Cartwright’s job for Nikki Sinclaire is also to “try to dupe people”?
The smear attempt is noted but clearly the capacity in which The EU currently employs Cartwright is a matter for Nikki Sinclaire - though he brings with him baggage which I personally consider it was unwise of Sinclaire to take on board as his talents doe seem all too readily subsumed by the low lifes of UKIP who seek to defame Sinclaire!



Curiously, Alan Harvey’s alternative ‘Swinton Circle’ on his Springbok club website which shows previous speakers no longer lists Tom Wise from March 2008 but retains Farage from January 2008; why one and not the other?
Since the cowardly Street Sweeper has such connections and information may I suggest he earns his keep as a butt boy for UKIP and finds out.

I do note that The Springbok Club and The Swinton Circle have been closely associated for many years - After many years based in South Africa actively opposed to appartheid and having resigned from The British Army on a point of principle over partly the issue of colour and my rejection of the fact that The British Army was at the time on standby to enter Rhodesia to promote a racially based position - I take issue with the smears of the guttless and cowards.


Another speaker to the Swinton Circle no longer shown is Bob Lomas – and what’s this? GL-W getting a bit uptight with Junius about the Magna Carta Society! What can it all mean?
It may surprise the cowardly that it means EXACTLY what I posted.

Unlike Street Sweeper I post what I believe to be the facts and will stand by them in a responsible manner, not as a coward posting innuendo and smears behind a cowardly cloak of anonymity!

Anyone wanting further facts is all to welcome to contact me direct as i have ALWAYS been easily contacted, always posted my material in my own name and always been willing to correct any detail that I have posted in error (it has happened, as I recall on 3 occasions and in each was corrected rapidly with apologies - fortunately not one of which was of any material consequence).


Greg Lance-Watkins repeatedly denounces Tom Wise from on high but fails to apply the same standards to his beloved Ashley Mote.
Ashley Mote's criminality was totally disimilar to the breech of trust in public office and the abuse of access to the public purse made by Tom Wise - as the courts recognised in sentencing where Mote was sentenced to 9 months and Wise to 24! It is also of some note that Ashley Mote was of some value to EUroRealism over a number of years - Wise was corrupt, dishonest and of little use to anyone other than wine merchants it seems - with his long string of failures and non jobs over his life.

Tom Wise betrayed the electorate and the EUroSceptic cause in office representing UKIP, the electorate and these United Kingdoms!
But then Greg Lance-Watkins has no credibility to undermine.
So you may dishonestly claim - yet we note that Street Sweeper's credibility is such that he is too ashamed to put his name to it!

Astonishingly (or maybe not) the every hypocritical Greg Lance-Watkins
Such a cheap and shoddy claim from a coward too ashamed to put his name to defamation yet unable to cite a single solitary instance of hypocracy with any credible evidence - so very like UKIP and its vile leadership and odious defenders.
denounces the Swinton Circle for (un-proven) BNP links but spectacularly fails to comment on Alan Harvey’s recent link-up with the Canadian “British People’s League” which is run by John Beattie former leader of the Canadian Nazi Party!
Cowardly fool that Street Sweeper is he fails to note I have absolutely no interest in Canadian Politics have considered Alan Hardy an irrelevance of no material consequence based on the little I know of him. I shall leave the gutter sweepings to those best suited in the gutter - this particular Street Sweeper andf his snivelling cowardice.

“More power to your elbow“ Harvey advices Beattie – clearly good advice for anyone who does the fascist salute a lot! Harvey also says he and Beattie “ will work ever closer together” - which based on his past record such as with US Nazi Richard Barrett means he will later develop selective amnesia and deny he ever heard of him.
What is the relevance of this obsession of UKIP with their chums in The BNP and extremist politics to Junius or myself?
So when Alan Harvey and Gary Cartwright’s ‘Swinton Circle’ (aka Springbok Club) next holds a meeting will Greg Lance-Watkins and Junius be rushing to denounce it as a Nazi-linked front group and publish its address? Seems unlikely considering denial forms part of their politics.
Particularly unlikely as I do not follow the antics of these tiny extremist groups.

Hence I am unaware of the membership of the group nor what its splits were.

The relevance of the Swinton Circle was merely due to their providing a platform for senior UKIP leadership and their being seen and quoted by many as yet another extremist group UKIP leadership were associated with.
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How very true and sitting on the pile of garbage that is so clearly represented by this cowardly street sweeper are all too many seeking preferment, placement and self interest within UKIP, its leadership, its parasites and its claque.

Perhaps when the odious Street Sweeper or scum like Independent UKIP, Arthur Fonzanellie and their ilk have the integrity to put their names and IDs to their sordid postings they can explain what this odious low life Street Sweeper was trying to achieve by showing just how dishonest he is!
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Monday, 5 September 2011

#0648* - Should UKIP follow Scottish Tories & Disband?

#0648* - Should UKIP follow Scottish Tories & Disband?


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The staggering dishonesty and stunning stupidity of UKIP NEC members such as Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Hugh Williams and their cronies would be hard to over estimate - I guess it is little wonder that the likes of Stuart Wheeler bipass them in decision making, as with the recent appointment of the utterly inept and inappropriate little Michael Heavers [for details see: CLICK HERE] who brings so little to the party beyond his ambition and an ability to make even Stuart Parr look stupid!

Little wonder that UKIP's incestuous little forum has been bubbling and fizzing with the tantrums of the self important nebishes. Even someone as gullible and naiive as Steve Allison would seem to clearly have woken up to the fact of his own irrelevance - he can not claim he wasn't warned!

The dishonesty and obvious stupidity of Mick McGough beggars belief with his display of political ignorance on the other UKIP Forum run for them by the weak and dishonest little muppet Anthony Butcher was a sight to behold today with the utterly stupid comment:
What binds this axis of anti-UKIP men and women?
Are they remunerated ?
If so by whom ?
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Are they anti-UKIP or anti the direction that Farage is taking UKIP in?
Just anti-UKIP,attacking Farage as he is the leader.Any other leader would be similarly attacked

It would seem he has rather less political savvy keeping his ears apart than his avatar would indicate that Lisa Duffy has keeping her pants on!

Astonishingly in response to Road_Hog's question above, Barren of Brain showed himself to be even less politically informed! His first stupidity was to say:
I'm certain they are anti-UKIP. They might have a point or two about Farage, but they are not interested in anti-EU politics. That to me is a dead giveaway.
It may make him feel important but to be so wrong is staggering even for someone who can not see past his own ego!

The comment of the idiotic AND consistenly ill informed Independent UKIP (widely believed to be little Ray Finch and a couple of others desperately boot licking to stay with their snouts in the gravy boat) his reply to 'ex-member'  is so stupid as to be worth fisking for amusement:

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Do tell us the direction Farage is taking the party in?
Farage is much more interested in the questions put by Mcgough-
who is behind the outrageous attacks on his clear and trasparent leadership methods?
Who is financing them?

Good that you're still around ex-member. As Farage is also still around things don't seem to be going too well for your lot.
I trust the fool does not include me as I am all too well aware that Farage has ensured he is EUkip's only asset - people of the calliber of Ray Finch, Gawain Towler, Mark Croucher, Godfrey Bloom, Mick McGough, Michael Heavers, Lisa Duffy, Annabell Fuller, Johnny Arnott, are indication enough that without Farage EUkip has nothing

That Farage is EUkip's greatest assett I have NEVER denied, nor have I lied to people and implied that he is other than their greatest liability as the media have shown time and again.
I don't expect you to give up on your anti-UKIP efforts though.
I will have to take his word for the claim that ex-member is 'anti-UKIP' though I have never seen evidence to support the claim and as I know The Junius team I know only too well how supportive of UKIP they have been and are.
I can only speak with certainty of myself and little wonder the cowardly worm hides behind anonymity if he claims that I am anti-UKIP or in any way on any day pro membership of The EU - Sir you are a liar and most clearly a coward - too cowardly to put your name to your obvious dishonesty, self serving as it may be.

You are Sir little better than the liar cheat and low life Mick McGough whose dishonesty is only rivalled by his stupidity which are both outshone by his vile and self demeaning personality - an excrecence on a par with Mark Croucher, John Ison, David Bannerman, Stuart Parr and the like who serially lie and cheat in their betrayal of these United Kingdoms for their personal gain.
In reply to post 1, the Junius hate blog
That you may HATE the truth about EUkip being published does not surprise me one iota.
recently reproduced a claim that Mr Rodney Atkinson was forced out of the party due to his apparent exposure of Conrad Black as a Bilderberger.
A claim which was NOT a statement of Junius merely the misinformed belief of one individual included in the dossier of papers published by long term UKIP member in Farage's region who has resigned from UKIP Chichester - However do by all means study the facts which can be found if you CLICK HERE

To have implied, as you seemed to, that Junius wrote the comment is dishonest and clearly in character for you.
As Mr Lance-Watkins claims for himself much of the credit for stopping Mr Atkinson from becoming UKIP leader a possible source by which Mr Lance-Watkins is remunerated is the Bilderberg group.
You do make an incredible fool of yourself with such ill informed comments.
I'm certainly not saying that is the case but merely putting the possibility out there.
Indeed your disingenuous dishonesty needs no explanation - those of any intelligence saw through your childish behaviour long ago.
As for the Junius hate blog
You keep repeating your little mantra as if to convince yourself - Sir as ever you are clearly a liar as you have totally failed to show EVER where Junius blog has been so childish as to hate and clearly no example where it could be described as hating UKIP.
there is very little doubt that one or more of their 'editors' is most happily in the pay of the EU.
Here you are actually right - in the ranks of EUkip leadership and their parasites there is little doubt.
It is of course that doubt that has them endlessly accusing eachother and others of participation.

When on a ship of fools it is rarely wise to follow the lead with a joke! Today YOU are that joke!

Showing yourself to be even more stupid than we might have imagined you went on to post this wriggling effort in a spectacularly inept attempt to embarrass Petrina Holdsworth:
It was the GLW link I was alluding to.
Wriggling to get off the hook PH had firmly put you on from an earlier ill informed comment you made!
Some of those you associated with in UK First were and are very close associates of Mr Lance-Watkins
As with the very many senior members of UKIP and subsequently EUkip who quite clearly supplied me with information and address l;ists ensuring the accuracy of my eMails, Forum Posts and blogs now and over the years. So accurate have they been that NO ONE has ever shown me to have materially misled or lied to mislead in a single solitary posting, which is why I do not have need of the cowardly device of anonymity and provide my address and phone number readily so that anyone wishing to 'clean-up' EUkip and make it a party that informed and ethical individuals of morality can vote for and put their name to as gentlemen can both supply information to that end or confirm the source and facts behind the many repetitions and revellations I have made over some 15 years.
as evidenced by the info and material provided to him during that brief era.
It may interest you to know, and as it is now not material, most of which was supplied by UKIP members who hoped that UKFirst might emerge as a replacement for the befouled EUkip.
But despite the claimed role of Mr Lance-Watkins in the failure of Mr Atkinson to gain the UKIP leadership you went along with those characters (I should have used the words "type of" in addition to the words used, sorry for not doing so) in that party.
I presume 'went along with' includes Malcolm Pearson who had various meetings with them during that period, which of course he would not have been allowed to do without Farage's approval as he was after all Farage's 'bitch' pimping his ideas and views - even his lies and dishonesty.

Before we continue I would ask you to consider:

Is it reasonable to state that any Political Body or Corporation that is so bereft of ability to show its achievements and worth that it despatches its agents and spokesment under cowardly cover of anonymity or irrelevance to lie, distort dissemble, bully and abuse as their only defence has most clearly lost the plot.
That its agents are shown repeatedly not for their achievements which seem insignificant but for their criminality, arrogance, dishonesty and corruption might they be considered to have lost the moral right to lead.

May it be accepted that unable to show any competence, ability or achievement of note and value in their appointed task yet setting out for self enrichment they seek to defend themselves in Court with other people's money they are clearly without ethic or morality.

That they seek in default of truth to lie and defame and then default upon their bills to seek to harm those weaker than themselves might they be considerred to have lost all right to respect or support from informed and ethical individuals.

If you can say no to any of these questions then may I suggest EUkip is the party for you!

Sunday, 4 September 2011


UKIP should follow Scottish Tories and disband



Today's Sunday Telegraph story on the above quoting the Scottish Tories likely new leader, Murdo Fraser was the best example of political leadership I can remember. Mr Fraser has looked at the Tory performance in Scotland and come to the rational conclusion supported by the evidence that North of the border the Tories are finished and has the courage to act on his beliefs. I quote from the ST below.

Murdo Fraser, who is favourite to become leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party, will announce that he plans to wind up the party if he wins a ballot of members next month. 
He would follow disbanding the party by launching a new Right-of-centre party that would contest all Scottish elections — council, Scottish Parliament and Westminster.
Mr Fraser, a member of the Scottish Parliament, believes the Conservatives have become a “toxic brand” in Scotland since losing all 11 of their Commons seats in the 1997 Labour landslide.

UKIP needs to do the same and recognise its total electoral failure in the only elections that can lead to the UK leaving the EU, the Westminster elections! UKIP is currently the problem in making progress on this core issue and is not and never can be even part of the solution.

Its name in the blogosphere  of EUKIP is well merited. Its leadership has been bribed by EU money and flattery into Brussels based EU supporters and much, much worse blocking the development of a real leave the EU party in the UK. It is irretrievably dominated by the same old toxic Tories, Pearson, Gill, Farage etc that the Scots Tory leader elect recognises as an insurmountable barrier to winning MPs in Scotland. And look at UKIP's latest recruit and star conference speaker, Neil Hamilton! A man who led the way in expenses scandals long before duck houses became fashionable.

Tim Congdon, one of the leaders in the No vote campaign against Farage's pan Europe party is also down to speak at the UKIP conference sharing a platform with Bloom who is alleged already to have signed up to a Pan Europe party and a Czech EU reformist called Mach whom I have never heard of. Tim's political compass needs looking at. If he wants out of the EU he should keep well away from these EU, mid European apologists.

UKIP can rid itself of these toxic, unreconstructed old Tories  only by disbanding and immediately reforming as broad based centrist anti EU party ie a party that could win Westminster seats like the Greens. This is the best and only contribution EUKIP can make to getting us out of the EU. The people are there to do it. Nikki Sinclaire, Mike Natrass, Trevor Colman and John Bufton. UKIP's NEC is simply a Farage rubber stamp group of mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed plenty of shit. Batten is politically spineless against Farage and Andreasen is the Monet dream made flesh.

It is down to those 4 MEPs to show some leadership. What have they to lose? Farage will never allow them to go on any UKIP MEP slate again. That is of course the real reason Bannerman jumped ship to the Tories. It had nothing to do with his profound admiration of  EU phile boy Dave. As soon as he stood against Farage for the leadership he was toast. He knew that as does anyone who knows Farage. Look at what has happened to the others who have stood against Farage in leadership contests.

Its a pity Tim Congdon lacks a political sense. As one ministers PPS once said to me that its like a sixth sense and if you don't have it you will never succeed in politics. Del Young has it big time. That is why he had to be marginalised and got rid off. Tim would be better off taking Del's advice than Batten's or Steve Allison. Both think they will be allowed onto the UKIP MEP slate in 2014. Knowing Farage, if he is still leader, I would not bet on either Batten or Allison appearing higher than 10, if at all, on any regional MEP slate. 

Greg_L-W. said...
Hi,

you seem to imply that there is something worth saving in EUkip.

Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman and Nikki Sinclaire have effectively left EUkip and its corruption behind them.

If you consider the only way to clean-up the party is to dissolve it and reform it immediately - how do YOU believe that this would ensure the removal of the corrupt leadership when quite clearly the members have voted clearly against them and even now it is likely Farage will use the conference to re-sell PEPPs with a back me or sack me gamble, without winning that he personally is of course finished.

The membership have voted resolutely against him and the liars he has gathered around him to support PEPPs on two very clear occasions.

The members also voted resolutely against his AV proposition and his Local Elections were catastrophic.

Politically poor old Tim but Dim lacks the required abilities to lead, Stuart Wheeler has shown he is happy to collude in corruption and has the judgement skills sufficient to have gambled and made a fortune which he has proceeded to loos by £Millions ever since.

Just look at how he behaves and the calliber of people he funds and even in UKIP he knows the NEC are untrustworthy and irrelevant so he ignores them.

EUkip has made itself apparent as no more than a Judas Goat, a claque of Plastic EUroSceptics who are unable to show a single solitary actual achievement that has placed these United Kingdoms closer to Leave-The-EU.

To be fair they have trousered a great deal of money, have helped The EU gain a great deal of credibility and have set out to sabotage numerous initiatives being more interested in their wealth creation, self interest and ensuring they do not upset the cart that delivers their apples.

Who would be worth saving when their ship sinks with their top 100 on.

Please - just a few names would be worth considering for I know of none.

EUkip has for some time now been very much a part of the problem with no place in the solution.

Clearly I have been for many years and still am a resolute supporter of UKIP but clearly I will NOT tolerate corruption and deceit of any kind and I consider the befouled EUkip to be irredeemable - I regret.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

4 September 2011 14:54
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Hi,

Eric you commented on some utterly unknown EU politician speaking at EUkip's conference.

This shows the extent to which EUkip has bought into The EU project as frankly what Finland, Estonia, Germany, Libya, Germany, Afghanistan or Greece chooses as its method of Governance is absolutely no business of ours.

Please note that Nikki Sinclaire's You Gov poll clearly showed that 53% of the peoples of these United Kingdoms will, when given the opportunity, vote to Leave-The-EU yet only 30% would vote to remain which is quite incredible minded just howmany aliens have been flooded into Britain to try to tip the balance.

It is interesting also to note that EUkip's extremist partners in The EU list at least 2 who openly or obliquely gave support to Anders Brevick and today I note Mario Borghezio is still a member of the group for all Farage's huff and puff, as is Francesco Speroni see:
http://www.efdgroup.eu/the-group.html
suspended for the summer holidays one must assume yet featuring over a week into the new parliament!

Will they be speakers to ensure enough utterly irrelevant foreigners speak to qualify for the EU bribes that will pay for the conference and much of the ancilliary costs.

I note also John Gaunt will be attending though his EU Referendum site has not been updated for an age and like Dan Hannan & Glendenning and the othert Judas Goat's approved Conservative site they have been shown up by the dedication of Nikki Sinclare's 100K+ signature petition - despite the many efforts of Farage, Bloom, Pearson and others to sabotage her effort and aid The EU and Tories thereby.

Clearly EUkip is no part of the solution with the likes of The Fraudster and abuser Stuart Agnew, The Liar and fraudster Derek Clark and the concatenation of low lifes and liars on the NEC how could EUkip ever be a part of the solution?

EUkip represents no values I would wish to call British.

Indeed EUkip is corrupt and corrupting OUR-ENEMY-WITHIN

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

4 September 2011 15:49
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