#0687* - A Wider View of UKIP Corruption & Failure

#0687* - A Wider View of UKIP Corruption & Failure

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A Wider View of UKIP Corruption & Failure!
A Perception widely held by the public hence their failure to gain any but the most irrelevant domestic offices with less than 30 people voted to office out of 19,500 available positions after 20 years and still not within sniffing distance of an elected office at Westminster!

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some may find a conversation regarding UKIP and the politics of independence of interest when discussed freely without the lies sustained and supported by the dishonest on Anthony Butcher's corrupted UKIP controlled forum or the incestuous so called official forum which is so managed as to be near unreadable.

It is clear that UKIP can not answer its critics nor justify its corruption so it resorts to abuse and bullying, lies and fantasies.

Daniel1989 King Reputation 14 I agree I disagree Posts: 2584 In amarissimo pianto Am I the only one who noticed UKIP's New NEC member ... « Reply #8 on: 02 November 2011, 20:31:11 » Reply with quote Quote from: Greg_L-W. on 02 November 2011, 20:20:03 Hi, I have supported UKIP members for many years and the values of those members consistently - it is the utterly corrupt and clearly incompetent leadership and their lack of morality, ethics or honour that I have consistently opposed. Clearly poor Stonefish hasn't much of a clue about what he is talking about and can not support his dishonest claims and has thus resorted to childish claims he has invented - clearly rather out of his depth! Regards, Greg_L-W. I just oppose them on politically grounds! But Mr Farage I really despise, he's an arrogant fool, who's made my job even more easier, UKIP would have a greater support if they didn't have him at the helm! Also, being known for being a one issue party hasn't helped their standing either. You seem to know about UKIP. I've always wanted to know what UKIP would do, if we did leave the EU, would they fight for Independence for the Home Nations, or just disperse. « Last Edit: 02 November 2011, 20:34:44 by Daniel1989 » Logged

Greg_L-W. Bishop Reputation 2 Posts: 392 Free Speaker 0 1   Am I the only one who noticed UKIP's New NEC member ... « Reply #9 on: 02 November 2011, 23:12:07 » Reply with quote Hi, I have no authority to answer D1989's question but I can put forward my view based on many years involvement with UKIP - though never a member. I am indifferent to the childish antics of UKIP and am a believer that they have betrayed their electorate by pandering to personal ambitions rather than addressing the challenge they were elected to acquit. They have put their own ambitions and enrichment before duty, due to poor leadership and the low caliber of its leadership team and its parasites many of whom are little more than the dregs of political aspiration and the amoral dregs and failures of the political scrabble. They have pandered to populism lacking integrity, vision, strategy, tactics or political intelligence. A measure of their inadequacy has been the idiocy and failure to lead giving opportunity to utter inadequates to rise within their structure to positions of influence even providing position for the self interested to promote some very ill conceived concepts. It is my belief that double guessing what UKIP might do if it was EVER successful is futile as without vision they just blow in the wind. Would a political party of any rational understanding obtain liberty and restore the sovereign independence and restoration of democracy repatriating decision making to these United kingdoms only to throw away the immense advantages by playing into the hands of a lunatic minority who would wish to destroy the gains for personalised ambition smashing the union that has served us well. IF any party were stupid enough to break up these United Kingdoms the most likely would be UKIP as they could be that stupid again due to lack of political nous or credible leadership. UKIP to date has failed as in 20 years it has failed to produce an exit and survival strategy let alone a credible one. UKIP have failed to show and convince the UK public of the benefits of leaving the EU. UKIP has failed to build a credible structure. UKIP does not even have an organisational structure. UKIP isn't even leading the EUroSceptic sector in The UK - it has been a single ex-UKIP MEP now sitting as an Independent to bring about a debate to Leave-The-EU at Westminster where Nikki Sinclaire's campaign produced the 100,000+ signatures required and UKIP took no part in the achievement! UKIP may well prove to be our future hope but only with a root and branches clean up and a great deal of blood letting as out of the top 100 people there isn't a single solitary individual of noticeable ability, integrity or morality with leadership skills - not even an individual who could capitalise on the undeniable skills of the present leader as a sales rep - a man so clearly indespensible to such an extent thaty were UKIP a commercial entity any M&A organisation would have no option but to fire him on day one. Farage has become indespensible by dint of slaughter of all of competence and surrounding himself with maggots that make his abilities seem of value! Many changes and decentralisations are required in these United Kingdoms WHEN we Leave-The-EU but no one of any sense would advocate the destruction of the UK, as all wopuld be the losers as divided we would be destroyed in short order on the competitive world stage - where the population of the planet has grown from 2 Billion when I was born to 7 Billion this week! Leaving a sinking ship makes obvious sense but in consideration of the lifeboat it would be an act of madness to permit one occupant to take the rations, another to steal the oars and yet another to remove the rudder! One need only read the posting I will be making on my UKIP-vs-EUkip blog shortly to comprehend just what a pernicious mess UKIP is - in my opinion! Regards, Greg_L-W. 217.44.48.97

Krugerman Pawn Reputation 0 I agree I disagree Posts: 6 Free Speaker Am I the only one who noticed UKIP's New NEC member ... « Reply #10 on: 04 November 2011, 20:21:07 » Report this post Reply with quote Oh my god - Neil and Christine, I want to put two fingers down my throat and be physicly sick Report this post Logged

Greg_L-W. Bishop Reputation 2 Posts: 392 Free Speaker 0 1   Am I the only one who noticed UKIP's New NEC member ... « Reply #11 on: Today at 00:15:42 » Report this post Reply with quote | Modify | Quote from: Krugerman on 04 November 2011, 20:21:07 Oh my god - Neil and Christine, I want to put two fingers down my throat and be physicly sick Hi, sadly I find it hard to disagree but I tend to have this reaction to many of the politicians who so regularly betray us for their own gain! Unfortunately - fair or not - The Hamiltons are irrevocably perceived as linked with political sleaze. UKIP by involving themselves with the Hamiltons do themselves no favours - this is on a par in terms of self inflicted damage as Farage consorting with prostitutes and the publicity that gained - The employment of Mark Croucher - The promotion of the self serving lies of John Ison - The outright dishonesty of Malcolm Pearson - The employment of the untrustworthy and deeply troubled Annabelle Fuller who stole the Blackberry & House of Commons pass of an MP - Rigging selection processes and internal elections - Lartge amounts of unaccounted money - More than 50% of a regional office's accounts (£1/4M) declared on accounts as 'Other expenses' - £1/4M of public money used for a Petition which NEVER took place - £1/4M paid into an Isle of Man a/c titled 'Farage Educational Trust' - £1/4M paid from The Ashford scam into a single private a/c - Fundraising where less than 15% of the money raised ever reached the party! - The corrupt and dishonest Marta Andreasen PLACED for effect as an MEP - The abject failure of UKIP to win seats in domestic politics is a very clear measure of howmuch the peoples of these United Kimngdoms trust UKIP at a time when never before has the EU been shown to be so universally unpopular! The only reason UKIP has any notable number of MEPs is as a result of an utterly spurious protest vote on the perception of MP expenses fiddles promoted by The Telegraph with stolen material. To court the failures and fools of other political parties is folish but to appoint those who compound the perceptions of corruption and sleaze is idiocy! There is not a single solitary honourable man or woman currently on UKIP's NEC or amongst its leadership in my opinion after years of studying them! Individuals who one is not surprised to see choosing alliance with the violent extremists, racists and anti Jewish anti homosexuals of the Pan EU Political EFD Group - a natural home for many of UKIP's leadership and their sleazy parasites. The vicious bullying and abuse by the aspirants amongst UKIP's leadership and its parasites is beneath contempt let alone unfit to represent any honourable individual and even less these United Kingdoms - sadly the trail of enrichment has brought out the very worst in those who have manipulated the honest intent of many patriotic voters and supporters giving rise to a leadership team and its parasites amongst who there are some who are such low lifes that they classify as nothing less than evil! Now that we move inexorably closer to the break up of The EU with popular and populist support as the corrupt concept stumbles it is sad that the politicians of all main parties see their own self interest as challenged and there is no political party or even group acting with any ethical integrity to consider the best interests of these United Kingdoms and devising any concept of an exit and survival strategy with vision to capitalise on the huge benefits of leaving The EU before it collapses! Where was a Genuine UK Independence Party when we needed one! Regards, Greg_L-W.

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